Comments on: Where Many Leaders Dare Not Go http://godhungry.org/2006/09/27/where-many-leaders-dare-not-go/ Attempting to connect life to what matters most Tue, 22 May 2012 03:19:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jim Martin http://godhungry.org/2006/09/27/where-many-leaders-dare-not-go/comment-page-1/#comment-2059 Jim Martin Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:22:03 +0000 http://godhungry.org/?p=461#comment-2059 Bobby,Thanks!  Glad you are back. Bobby,Thanks!  Glad you are back.

]]> By: Jim Martin http://godhungry.org/2006/09/27/where-many-leaders-dare-not-go/comment-page-1/#comment-2058 Jim Martin Sat, 30 Sep 2006 23:21:31 +0000 http://godhungry.org/?p=461#comment-2058 Greg,Thanks for those remarks from your days as a ref.  And does that ever carry over into other settings.  Very wise.  Greg,Thanks for those remarks from your days as a ref.  And does that ever carry over into other settings.  Very wise. 

]]> By: Bobby Valentine http://godhungry.org/2006/09/27/where-many-leaders-dare-not-go/comment-page-1/#comment-2057 Bobby Valentine Thu, 28 Sep 2006 19:25:42 +0000 http://godhungry.org/?p=461#comment-2057 Jim I have been out of town for several days and just now seeing your new sight. It looks very nice indeed. As always the content is superb. Shalom, Bobby Valentine Jim I have been out of town for several days and just now seeing your new sight. It looks very nice indeed. As always the content is superb.

Shalom,
Bobby Valentine

]]> By: Greg England http://godhungry.org/2006/09/27/where-many-leaders-dare-not-go/comment-page-1/#comment-2056 Greg England Thu, 28 Sep 2006 01:53:14 +0000 http://godhungry.org/?p=461#comment-2056 Jim: This is a little off the subject, but I was a high school basketball official for about 20 years, calling mostly varsity level games the last 10 years. I was one of those guys who put up w/ nothing from coaches ... until I learned what a difference it made in a "discussion" with a coach for me to say, "You know, Coach, you're right. I missed the call." Kept me out of a lot of arguments, bad feelings, technical foul situations, and earned the respect of most coaches that saw me come on their coart over the years. But it was a much older, far wiser, more experienced official who let me in on that secret. And most of the time I didn't miss the call ... but I avoided a lot of unnecessary conflicts. Jim: This is a little off the subject, but I was a high school basketball official for about 20 years, calling mostly varsity level games the last 10 years. I was one of those guys who put up w/ nothing from coaches … until I learned what a difference it made in a “discussion” with a coach for me to say, “You know, Coach, you’re right. I missed the call.” Kept me out of a lot of arguments, bad feelings, technical foul situations, and earned the respect of most coaches that saw me come on their coart over the years. But it was a much older, far wiser, more experienced official who let me in on that secret. And most of the time I didn’t miss the call … but I avoided a lot of unnecessary conflicts.

]]> By: Jim Martin http://godhungry.org/2006/09/27/where-many-leaders-dare-not-go/comment-page-1/#comment-2055 Jim Martin Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:17:59 +0000 http://godhungry.org/?p=461#comment-2055 Adam, What a sad story about your friend. Sad that he did not feel as if he could be human. Sometime, churches want their minister/pastor/church leaders etc. to be better than they really are. Unfortunately, that can put great pressure on these people to pretend or to feel as if they can not be human. Thanks Adam for a good comment. Adam,
What a sad story about your friend. Sad that he did not feel as if he could be human.

Sometime, churches want their minister/pastor/church leaders etc. to be better than they really are. Unfortunately, that can put great pressure on these people to pretend or to feel as if they can not be human.

Thanks Adam for a good comment.

]]> By: Jim Martin http://godhungry.org/2006/09/27/where-many-leaders-dare-not-go/comment-page-1/#comment-2054 Jim Martin Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:11:58 +0000 http://godhungry.org/?p=461#comment-2054 Connie, That is a good topic for another post. A lot of people have found themselves in the same position. (It would also be interesting to know why these people are being promoted in the first place). Connie,
That is a good topic for another post. A lot of people have found themselves in the same position. (It would also be interesting to know why these people are being promoted in the first place).

]]> By: Jim Martin http://godhungry.org/2006/09/27/where-many-leaders-dare-not-go/comment-page-1/#comment-2053 Jim Martin Wed, 27 Sep 2006 18:10:09 +0000 http://godhungry.org/?p=461#comment-2053 Chris, Thanks for leaving such a good comment. You are so right about that being a huge issue in marriages. I hope you will comment again. Chris,
Thanks for leaving such a good comment. You are so right about that being a huge issue in marriages.

I hope you will comment again.

]]> By: Adam http://godhungry.org/2006/09/27/where-many-leaders-dare-not-go/comment-page-1/#comment-2052 Adam Wed, 27 Sep 2006 17:02:09 +0000 http://godhungry.org/?p=461#comment-2052 Great points. I've been sharing a message this last year entitled, “Wrong Doesn't Equal Bad.” It seems a lot of people are afraid to be wrong because it will mean that they're bad. But being wrong (not in the moral sense) just means that one is in error, which is how we are most of our life. The human journey is about discovering reality and conforming to it. We will throw a lot of bad pitches before we can throw good ones. That's not shameful or bad. That's human; that's how things work; that's how God made us. I've noticed a lot of conflicts are simply errors in judgment; one or both lack clarity about reality. It would be much nicer in life if we could just relax and confess our errors when we discover them and receive and give grace to one another to be wrong. A pastor friend of mine decided to leave his church and apply for missionary service. In the end, he was rejected as a missionary candidate and in the meantime he was out of a pastoring job. He felt such guilt and shame for taking his family down this path and putting them in financial peril. I remember trying to encourage him by saying, “How were you supposed to know if this was the right direction without trying? Aren't you allowed to learn and discover God's will for you?” He told me, “No, I'm not allowed to do that.” Sadly, we don't allow others or ourselves to learn. We must be right and perfect from birth. Great points. I’ve been sharing a message this last year entitled, “Wrong Doesn’t Equal Bad.” It seems a lot of people are afraid to be wrong because it will mean that they’re bad. But being wrong (not in the moral sense) just means that one is in error, which is how we are most of our life. The human journey is about discovering reality and conforming to it. We will throw a lot of bad pitches before we can throw good ones. That’s not shameful or bad. That’s human; that’s how things work; that’s how God made us. I’ve noticed a lot of conflicts are simply errors in judgment; one or both lack clarity about reality. It would be much nicer in life if we could just relax and confess our errors when we discover them and receive and give grace to one another to be wrong.

A pastor friend of mine decided to leave his church and apply for missionary service. In the end, he was rejected as a missionary candidate and in the meantime he was out of a pastoring job. He felt such guilt and shame for taking his family down this path and putting them in financial peril. I remember trying to encourage him by saying, “How were you supposed to know if this was the right direction without trying? Aren’t you allowed to learn and discover God’s will for you?” He told me, “No, I’m not allowed to do that.” Sadly, we don’t allow others or ourselves to learn. We must be right and perfect from birth.

]]> By: ConnieLard http://godhungry.org/2006/09/27/where-many-leaders-dare-not-go/comment-page-1/#comment-2051 ConnieLard Wed, 27 Sep 2006 14:20:11 +0000 http://godhungry.org/?p=461#comment-2051 "to the degree you attempt to hide or dissemble your weaknesses, the more you will need to control those you lead, the more insecure you will become, and the more rigidity you will impose--prompting the ultimate departure of your best people" I've seen the truth of that statement up close and personal. It is frustrating and demoralizing to work under the "leadership" of such a person. I need some suggestions on how to deal with such a person on a day to day basis when she is your supervisor and driving everyone crazy with her controlling and micromanaging.........................but, but that's another topic which you have probably dealt with already on another blog entitled "How to Deal with Difficult People" or something like that. Perhaps I should consult your archives. :) “to the degree you attempt to hide or dissemble your weaknesses, the more you will need to control those you lead, the more insecure you will become, and the more rigidity you will impose–prompting the ultimate departure of your best people”

I’ve seen the truth of that statement up close and personal. It is frustrating and demoralizing to work under the “leadership” of such a person. I need some suggestions on how to deal with such a person on a day to day basis when she is your supervisor and driving everyone crazy with her controlling and micromanaging…………………….but, but that’s another topic which you have probably dealt with already on another blog entitled “How to Deal with Difficult People” or something like that. Perhaps I should consult your archives. :)

]]> By: chris huggins http://godhungry.org/2006/09/27/where-many-leaders-dare-not-go/comment-page-1/#comment-2050 chris huggins Wed, 27 Sep 2006 13:44:05 +0000 http://godhungry.org/?p=461#comment-2050 this is a great entry. very insightful and, in my opinion, a huge issue with men in marriages. we have to swallow our pride and admit we are wrong. this is a great entry. very insightful and, in my opinion, a huge issue with men in marriages. we have to swallow our pride and admit we are wrong.

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